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Diggin' the Crates: The Hidden Goldmine

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One thing that's universal among record collectors is the desire to maximize the value of every dollar spent on vinyl. There are a lot of records in the world, and you'll never ever get all the ones you want. Ever. Most of us simply can't afford to spend $300 on a first-edition copy of Sgt. Pepper's - so if you want to satisfy that craving, you need to be smart.

Hide-and-Seek

There are records - often free ones - hiding under your very nose. Many of them are tucked away in basements, attics, crawlspaces, and other little nooks and crannies. If you've seen the documentary Scratch, you've seen DJ Shadow digging through a particularly spectacular example of such a cache. I'll let Shadow explain the significance of a find like this: it's enough for me to say that watching that video segment gives me the chills.

So, how do you find these caches? Keep your eyes and ears peeled. Talk to other collectors. Make it known that you're interested in this sort of thing. Eventually, you'll develop a nose for records and a set of contacts that helps you sniff them out wherever they are.

This sort of collecting is a lifestyle, not a hobby.


The Big Score

In January (2008), I was visiting a friend who lives in Oakland, California. She lives in an apartment that is the converted top floor of an old quasi-Victorian house on the edge of Berkeley. When I showed up, the first thing she did was take me into her attic. Why? Records. Hundreds of them.

It seems that the previous tenants bolted in the night under questionable circumstances, leaving these records and a lot of other stuff behind. The records were going begging, and - knowing of my habit - she invited me to take what I wanted. I wanted to take everything, but circumstances being what they were I limited myself to about a dozen choice selections.

I scored a number of classic early-eighties hip-hop singles, a few pristine jazz LPs, and some quality funk. I was in heaven. Many of the jackets were water-damaged, and the records were dirty, dusty, and generally uncared-for, but this was a goldmine.

I haven't actually listened to any of these records yet. Why? Because I haven't cleaned them.


Clean Your Records

It's true that if maintained, cared for, and played properly, records sound better than CDs, MP3s, and other digital music. However, records are much more fragile. A dirty or damaged record sounds terrible: pops, skips, scratches - you know the sound. Cleaning records like the ones I found in Oakland is an essential part of listening to them the right way: respectfully.

Here's how you do it:

The Right Equipment

This is just a stripped-down bare-minimums sort of cleaning setup, but it's better than nothing and it's the best a broke-ass like me can afford.

  • A decent turnable: You need to have a decent turntable with a decent needle. You don't need anything extravagant, but you do need something that won't actively damage your records. It's better to have a record with a drive system independent from the tonearm, so you can spin the record without having a needle on it.
  • A cleaning agent: There are a ton of these on the market. Some are better than others. Record Research's Super Cleaner is pretty decent, but go with whatever fits your budget and works for you.
  • A cleaning brush: Some kind of brush designed specifically for cleaning records is a must. Like cleaning fluids, there are a zillion out there. Pick the one that works for you.

These are just the basics. There are a zillion other things out there you can buy or use - specific record-cleaning hardware, more chemicals, etc. Many of them are useful, but these are the bare minimums.

The Cleaning Process

  1. Place your record on the turntable and spin it up. Keep the tone-arm off the record and out of the way.
  2. Apply a thin line of cleaning fluid to the brush and press it down gradually onto the surface of the record. Work out in a spiral from the center to the edge. Make sure you get the whole thing, and don't forget to do both sides.
  3. Let the record air-dry, or wipe it with a lint-free cloth, before trying to play it.

EDIT:

Also, don't forget to clean your stylus! Most cleaning brushes come with a stylus brush included. If you can't find one, an old soft-bristle toothbrush (the smaller, the better) will do the trick.

Proper Storage

If you're digging through a lot of attics, basements, and bargain bins, you're probably going to come across plenty of records that haven't been stored properly. They'll be warped, water-damaged, scratched, and generally abused. Some, you won't be able to keep and use. Others will just need a good home and proper treatment.

Handling and storage are just as important as cleaning. Always store your records appropriately. Don't stack them on top of each other - instead, line them up vertically, in a snug enough space that they aren't resting at an angle. The classic milkcrate is a decent option. Store them in a relatively cool, dry place away from direct sunlight.

Keep your records in jackets. If the jackets that came with your records are damaged, warped, or otherwise insufficient, buy new ones - they're cheap.

EDIT:

To remove a record from the jacket:

  1. Holding the sleeve more or less perpendicular to the floor, pop the aperture of the sleeve open so it looks sort of like an oval leaf.
  2. Slide your whole hand under the record, taking care not to touch the grooves.
  3. Place your middle finger (or your longest finger) on the label--the further away from the grooves, the better.
  4. Rest your thumb on the outer rim of the disc and gently slide the record out of the sleeve, balancing with your palm cupped away from the surface of the disc.


That's all I've got for this week. Next week we'll talk about the listening ritual. Stay tuned!


[Edits courtesy of fellow vinylphile stolte-sawa.]


Cross-posted from the new ListenInMusic.com.

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Anyone got any other cleaning or collecting tips?

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Reply#1 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:31 PM EST
{"commentId":1466905,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}
If you've seen the documentary Scratch, you've seen DJ Shadow digging through a particularly spectacular example of such a cache.

That's a great movie.

The classic milkcrate is a decent option.

It depends. I took some milk crates from when I worked at a Barnes and Noble Starbucks. They were too small for my records.

Bastards.

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Reply#2 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:40 PM EST
{"commentId":1466928,"authorDomain":"emix"}
It depends. I took some milk crates from when I worked at a Barnes and Noble Starbucks. They were too small for my records.

Yes. I should note that you probably need the oblong kind - not the symmetrical ones.

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#2.1 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:45 PM EST
{"commentId":1466942,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

I had a red one of those senior year of college. After it spent a sedentary year holding my records, I moved and it became obvious that the color had bled onto the carpet. Stained would be a more apt description. Expensively stained.

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#2.2 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:47 PM EST
{"commentId":1466991,"authorDomain":"stolte-sawa"}

You should have just left it there.

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#2.3 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:00 PM EST
{"commentId":1468588,"authorDomain":"wonnacottyledon"}

I've found that milk crates lifted from actual milk-distribution companies work the best. If you've got no qualms about theft, you can always grab two from the back of any supermarket or grade school. I've currently got 4, but only one holds records - the rest is for paint! I've also used supermarket baskets, but they're a little more awkward.

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#2.4 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:14 PM EST
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{"commentId":1466984,"authorDomain":"stolte-sawa"}

Awesome, Evan. Also, don't forget to clean your stylus! Most cleaning brushes come with a stylus brush included. If you can't find one, an old soft-bristle toothbrush (the smaller, the better) will do the trick. You might also want to add that the way you handle your records is as important as how you store and clean them. To remove a record from its sleeve:

1. Holding the sleeve more or less perpendicular to the floor, pop the aperture of the sleeve open so it looks sort of like an oval leaf.
2. Slide your whole hand under the record, taking care not to touch the grooves.
3. Place your middle finger (or your longest finger) on the label--the further away from the grooves, the better.
4. Rest your thumb on the outer rim of the disc and gently slide the record out of the sleeve, balancing with your palm cupped away from the surface of the disc.

If you can't figure it out from there, you should probably stick to your clickwheel. :)

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Reply#3 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:59 PM EST
{"commentId":1467017,"authorDomain":"emix"}

Ooh, good call. I'm adding that in.

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#3.1 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:06 PM EST
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{"commentId":1467581,"authorDomain":"finalcut"}

Your mentioning of the Beatles album (and it's value) has me curious as to what all the albums I have are and if any are actually worth anything beyond a $0.50

I don't have time to dig through them all and inventory them though - but when I do I'll have to write an article telling you what I find in the boxes. I rarely listen to the ones I have; perhaps I should rectify that as well - thanks for giving me a little motivation.

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Reply#4 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:18 PM EST
{"commentId":1467596,"authorDomain":"emix"}

My pleasure. I recently went through my dad's old 45 collection with him and unearthed a few absolute gems. Found a copy of Dark Side of the Moon with the original promo posters in it too - those are pretty sweet.

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#4.1 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:21 PM EST
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{"commentId":1467863,"authorDomain":"Kiser"}

In case you haven't received my e-mail (and I'd like to share this with everyone else), this article got yourself your own little module on the MSNBC community page.

Congrats. Good article too.

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Reply#5 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:43 PM EST
{"commentId":1467960,"authorDomain":"finalcut"}

in case anyone else has as much trouble finding the module as I did it is in the top right hand corner of the page :O) - or maybe I'm just not a good scanner

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#5.1 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:12 PM EST
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{"commentId":1468396,"authorDomain":"acm"}

Hi Evan --

Hey, I had one of those original Sgt. Peppers albums, but it got the crap beat out of it trying to play it backwards on a little portable box record player in the neighbor's garage in 1969 -- you know, to find all the hidden messages about walruses and such. Ripped up a White Album and Abbey Road that way too. Bummer. And (real Beatles nostalgia here) I had a copy Yesterday and Today, where if you peeled off the regular label carefully you got the censored "Dead Babies" label underneath. Wonder what THAT would fetch today. All gone.

I do still have the first record I ever bought (in 1963) a 45 single of the Beach Boys "Surfin' USA" with "Shut Down" on the back. It has the original serial number hand scribed on the vinyl. And the second -- (in 1965) -- a 45 single of Help! with "I'm Down" on the flip side. Still in its original paper jacket (a bit tattered) and, like the Beach Boys record still plays perfectly. Should I have them framed? Is there some web source where I can find out if they are worth something?

Love the photo of the Yusef Lateef album with your article. Lovely stuff, all.

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Reply#6 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:52 PM EST
{"commentId":1468414,"authorDomain":"emix"}
Should I have them framed? Is there some web source where I can find out if they are worth something?

Let me get back to you on this one.

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#6.1 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:57 PM EST
{"commentId":1468455,"authorDomain":"emix"}

Here's "Help!" on eBay with an opening bid of $40 (with more than three days to go).

Here's "Surfin' USA" for $30.

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    #6.2 - Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:15 PM EST
    {"commentId":1470388,"authorDomain":"stolte-sawa"}

    Some things you need to know, ACM:

    Collector records are assessed for value a number of different ways. First, their condition. Are there surface scratches? Gouges? Is there damage to the spine of the sleeve? Is there water damage?

    Another important factor is whether or not the copy you own is an original, rare or early press. Albums like "Help!" were very popular and thus reissued a number of times. "Sufin' USA" was probably in every jukebox in America when it hit the stands. The newer the press, the lower the value. If your copy of "Help!" was pressed in 1981, you'll be lucky to get $10 for it.

    In other words, you're going to have to do some research into your vintage records to find out what pressing you have and how you should grade it before you can even think about posting it with a high reserve on eBay.

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    #6.3 - Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:06 PM EST
    {"commentId":1470409,"authorDomain":"emix"}
    the first record I ever bought (in 1963)
    the second -- (in 1965)
    the original serial number hand scribed on the vinyl

    I'm pretty sure they're original.

    And:

    still plays perfectly

    I've actually seen the two records he's talking about (that's my dad). They're in very good condition.

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    #6.4 - Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:11 PM EST
    {"commentId":1470558,"authorDomain":"stolte-sawa"}

    Well, the first CD I ever bought was Green Day's Dookie, a year after it was released. They can squeeze out another press in a year. Just sayin'. You want to know what you have. :)

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    #6.5 - Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:36 PM EST
    {"commentId":1470588,"authorDomain":"emix"}

    Good point. Still, if it was purchased the same year the single was released (true in both cases) I'd say the odds are pretty good it's a first pressing.

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    #6.6 - Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:42 PM EST
    {"commentId":1470806,"authorDomain":"stolte-sawa"}

    You're right.

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    #6.7 - Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:35 PM EST
    {"commentId":1471237,"authorDomain":"MarxistMonkey"}

    That Yesterday and Today--the one with the Butcher cover underneath the new cover--that's a $1000 record at least. But only if it still has the new cover intact over the old one. (How you're supposed to know that the censored one is underneath, I don't know.)

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    #6.8 - Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:27 PM EST
    {"commentId":1471357,"authorDomain":"stolte-sawa"}

    Serial numbers?

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    #6.9 - Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:56 PM EST
    {"commentId":1471455,"authorDomain":"tcervo"}
    (How you're supposed to know that the censored one is underneath, I don't know.)

    There's a sticker over the original "Butcher" cover...Peeled covers sell for less than un-peeled.

    Of course, 1st issue (no sticker, original Butcher cover), is very rare and worth upwards of $25,000...Unless it's one of the 25 "Livingston" albums, which are going for much more.

    Everything you ever wanted to know about the Butcher cover...

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    #6.10 - Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:27 PM EST
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    {"commentId":1487196,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

    Hit the store yesterday. Didn't find anything dazzling, just progressed on my project of getting some albums I already have, but want on vinyl instead. Belle and Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister, Talking Heads - 77 and Joy Division - Brotherhood.

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    Reply#7 - Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:06 PM EST
    {"commentId":1487320,"authorDomain":"emix"}

    It begins... (continues...)

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    #7.1 - Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:35 PM EST
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